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somebodies grant must be up for renewal............... bs science again...... dont believe a word of this story
#1 - Tue May 19, 2009 4:40 PM EDTThat's right, religious people don't believe in fossils. Unless they're Billy Graham.
Wrong - again! I believe in fossils - I just don't believe they're my great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great - whew - grandparents. However, having spoken to some evolutionists, I can understand why they do.
First of all, PLEASE DON'T TAKE THIS PERSONALLY!!!!! I feal it is unfair to critisize people just because they believe something different!!!! Lets be civilized people!!
There are two main types of evolution, micro (selective breeding/mutations) and macro evolution (when an organism changes species). I only can find enough evidence to believe in micro evolution, which you can witness today. The definition of a scientific law is something that can be prooven over and over again. Darwin's theory is still a theory because it can't be 100% prooven. Plus no-one was there to witness any "Big Bang" or macro evolution, and it doesn't occur today.
Please do your research before you comment (really seem smart!!). The way many evolutionists put it really seems dumb to me!
Make me repeat myself. Man.
talkorigins[dot]org/faqs/comdesc/section1[dot]html#pred4
talkorigins[dot]org/faqs/faq-transitional[dot]html
Fix the dots, etc.
I suppose gravity is still only a theory too.
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Creationism takes place in the gaps where fossils and direct evidence are missing.
It is in the gaps where God acts and creates what believers believe.
This fossil fills a very large gap with evolutionary evidence that can and should be evaluated.
This fossil is scripture as written by God.
Believers, pay attention, this fossil and all fossils are God speaking to you.
Listen, see, and believe - wisely.
Maybe now the fundamentalists can finally let go of their fairy tales.
#2 - Tue May 19, 2009 4:40 PM EDTHAHAHA!!! What garbage. Believing in evolution is the real fairy tale. I will never believe a word of this nonsense. I can't understand why people think this foolishness is true. Oh well, let the morons believe it and waste their time with it.
I, for one, do not have enough faith to believe in evolution. I am a creationist through and through.
Believe in evolution? You don't have to believe in evolution. Evolution is a scientific theory which is open for people to study. It is a valid theory and it's results can be measured just like any other scientific theory. The best part is that it can be very easily dismissed if evidence to the contrary is found. Yet there is no evidence to the contrary. However religion must be believed because there is no proof. Oh, and it also cannot be disproved. i guess you would rather believe in something, someone said is true just because, rather than study the facts. Who is wasting their lives???
There is plenty of evidence to the contrary - if you interpret it as such (and some scientists do). Scientists are generally all over the place with what they believe in regards to Evolution. They can't even settle on an age for the Earth.
Religion is faith. Its not science. Thats doesn't mean that it can't coexist with science, but to compare the "provability" of religion vs. Evolution is silly. Unless of course you consider Evolution to be your chosen faith. I know many people do.
There is plenty of evidence to the contrary - if you go out of your way to interpret it as such (and some scientists do).
There, fixed.
Scientists are generally all over the place with what they believe in regards to Evolution.
Not biological, geological, or cosmological scientists...
They can't even settle on an age for the Earth.
Being vague, it's more than 4 billion and less than 5 billion years old. neither 6000 nor 10000 fall between those 2 numbers.
Evolution isn't a theory, its a fact. The recent swine flu is even more proof. It's not a new virus, it's a virus that's evolved and has some characteristics of the old swine flu.
Even A.I.D.S constantly evolves, that's why it's so hard to treat.
We're just more complex creatures that do the same thing. Some of us have darker skin to adapt to hot, harsh climates while others didn't.
We're all part of the chain.
Maybe god "intelligently designed" AIDS to kill off teh gays /s
Hmm.. apparently "he" didn't predict that it would spread to straight people, even innocent children.
How non all-knowing and non-powerful of him.
Hey! It's their own fault. God gave man free will, and if those children hadn't been engaged in dangerous lifestyle choices, like getting blood transfusions for hemophilia and being born to drug addicted mothers they never would have gotten it. Serves them right.
Dude, both of you stfu. You're waisting your lives arguing about something that COULD be. Evolution is NOT a fact, as a THEORY is a THEORY (non proven educated GUESS) and religion is just a bunch of stories to make everyone feel better about dying. Go do something with your lives other than make fun of innocent people (XNihil0Zer0) or acting like the christian creation theory is the perfect way to go. Guess what lil' boys, neither one has been proven, and neither one will be proven, so stop impossing your beliefs on other people. THANKS.
Evolution is a fact. The Theory of Evolution explains how evolution occurred. Just as gravity is a fact, the Theory of Gravity explains how objects with mass have weight and how the act in space. Some scientists disagree over some minor mechanics of evolution, eg puncture equilibrium and such, but none argue weather or not it happened and continues to happen. To quote:
Biological evolution is a change in the genetic characteristics of a population over time. That this happens is a fact. Biological evolution also refers to the common descent of living organisms from shared ancestors. The evidence for historical evolution -- genetic, fossil, anatomical, etc. -- is so overwhelming that it is also considered a fact. The theory of evolution describes the mechanisms that cause evolution. So evolution is both a fact and a theory.
-Talk Origins site FAQ
"Let me try to make crystal clear what is established beyond reasonable doubt, and what needs further study, about evolution. Evolution as a process that has always gone on in the history of the earth can be doubted only by those who are ignorant of the evidence or are resistant to evidence, owing to emotional blocks or to plain bigotry. By contrast, the mechanisms that bring evolution about certainly need study and clarification. There are no alternatives to evolution as history that can withstand critical examination. Yet we are constantly learning new and important facts about evolutionary mechanisms. "
- Theodosius Dobzhansky "Nothing in Biology Makes Sense Except in the Light of Evolution", American Biology Teacher vol. 35 (March 1973)
And lastly:
In the American vernacular, "theory" often means "imperfect fact"--part of a hierarchy of confidence running downhill from fact to theory to hypothesis to guess. Thus the power of the creationist argument: evolution is "only" a theory and intense debate now rages about many aspects of the theory. If evolution is worse than a fact, and scientists can't even make up their minds about the theory, then what confidence can we have in it? Indeed, President Reagan echoed this argument before an evangelical group in Dallas when he said (in what I devoutly hope was campaign rhetoric): "Well, it is a theory. It is a scientific theory only, and it has in recent years been challenged in the world of science--that is, not believed in the scientific community to be as infallible as it once was."
Well evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape-like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered.
Moreover, "fact" doesn't mean "absolute certainty"; there ain't no such animal in an exciting and complex world. The final proofs of logic and mathematics flow deductively from stated premises and achieve certainty only because they are not about the empirical world. Evolutionists make no claim for perpetual truth, though creationists often do (and then attack us falsely for a style of argument that they themselves favor). In science "fact" can only mean "confirmed to such a degree that it would be perverse to withhold provisional consent." I suppose that apples might start to rise tomorrow, but the possibility does not merit equal time in physics classrooms.
Evolutionists have been very clear about this distinction of fact and theory from the very beginning, if only because we have always acknowledged how far we are from completely understanding the mechanisms (theory) by which evolution (fact) occurred. Darwin continually emphasized the difference between his two great and separate accomplishments: establishing the fact of evolution, and proposing a theory--natural selection--to explain the mechanism of evolution.
- Stephen J. Gould, "Evolutions as Fact and Theory"; Discover, May 1981
To Fordman;
Why are you wasting your time with it? Just because you don't understand something, doesn't make others morons. Let others have their beliefs, and you have you own....
I guess we'll all find out when we die who had the correct answers.
I think it's a fascinating find, regardless of where I believe we originated from.
These comments have allowed me to come up with a new theory. The "fact" is that there exist people who do not believe in evolution. My theory is that the mechanism for their lack of belief is a corresponding lack of education. The vast majority of these people have never stepped into a science classroom. They have not, in fact, even read the theories they argue against in their entirety.
Regurgitating canned religious responses to evolution does not count as arguing. Unfortunately for these people, reciting factual proof of evolution does.
Someone said that evolution is scientific. The definition of scientific is that it is "observable, provable and duplicatable" In all of human history we have never observed a new species evolve. What is observable provable and duplicatable is just what God said in Genesis chapter 1. Every species reproduces it's own kind. 100% of the time when humans reproduce, its another human. 100% of the time when lizards reproduce, it's another lizard. 100% of the time birds reproduce, it's another bird. This is what is observable, provable and duplicatable.
Google "observed instances of speciation" and look some up. We also have the fossil record. Not to mention it takes a few million years for most major changes. Small changes add up.
The bible also says god was defeated by men with iron chariots. And that he the all powerful had to rest for a day. And the Earth was held up on pillars, and slavery was okay.
Hmm, I wonder how many of those who have actually died from AIDS were athiest in the end? Death is horribly tragic, but much more so to an athiest. The truth is that we will all have to die from something however brutal one day. Who wants to hang around here forever anyway? We weren't meant to.
z ro - excellent choice for a nick. Don't get the fact that viruses or anything else evolves/mutates/adapts, which they do, mixed up with the erroneous idea that we walked out of the sea or changed from apes to humans, neither of which has been "proven" or even reasonably demostrated. If you do, people might think you're stupid.
Velox at least have the decency to be accurate when you say "the Bible says". Give me scripture and verse on that iron chariot thing. God never approves of slavery He only speaks to it because of man's own nature to oppress one another. You try to portray a loving God as hateful when it is your representation of Him that is hateful. Do not pass off your own characteristics onto God. No one can speak for Him but we can certainly be a witness of His mercy and grace. That should be our testimony but we all fall short of the Glory of God.
More repeating of what I've already said. Yay.
And the LORD was with Judah; and he drave out the inhabitants of the mountain; but could not drive out the inhabitants of the valley, because they had chariots of iron. (Judges 1:19)
Found this handy link. Argue with them. I'm tired of this. daylightatheism[dot]org/2007/11/iron-chariots[dot]html
Have you allowed all the women to live?" he [Moses] asked them.... "Now ... kill every woman who has slept with a man, but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man." --Numbers 31:1-18 (NIV)
Slaves, obey your earthly masters with deep respect and fear. Serve them sincerely as you would serve Christ. --Ephesians 6:5 NLT
Your male and female slaves are to come from the nations around you; from them you may buy slaves. You may also buy some of the temporary residents living among you and members of their clans born in your country, and they will become your property. You can will them to your children as inherited property and can make them slaves for life… --Leviticus 25:44-46
Jesus was all-powerful --Matt 28:18/ John 3:35
Jesus was not all-powerful --Mark 6:5
I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things. --Isaiah 45:7
There are also verses saying this people or that are the choosen and thus inherently better. What better way to cause wars. No I will not look it up for you, do it yourself, I'm tired of all this. But wouldn't a loving god prevent this, or if you wanna say humans smeared his name, wouldn't he fix it? Why allow it to happen in the first place to create such a wildly confounding, mysogenist, racist, narrowminded, factually incorrect, over all bigoted book? If it's not the work of god, why believe any thing it says.
For the record, I used to be christian, even as I studied evolution. It was the study of the bible and the history of christianity/religion that caused doubt and finaly seeing I could make my own life that caused me to be atheist. Logic prevailed for me.
Creationism takes place in the gaps where fossils and direct evidence are missing.
It is in the gaps where God acts and creates what believers believe.
This fossil fills a very large gap with evolutionary evidence that can and should be evaluated.
This fossil is scripture as written by God.
Believers, pay attention, this fossil and all fossils are God speaking to you.
Listen, see, and believe - wisely.
somebodies grant must be up for renewal..... total bs science....
#3 - Tue May 19, 2009 4:41 PM EDTTotal bs spelling on your part. Somebody's
#4 - Tue May 19, 2009 4:43 PM EDTAnd your point is? Just because someone can't spell doesn't mean they can't think.
Comment collapsed by the communityIt's a significant find. But it shouldn't come as any great surprise, finding transitional fossils is nothing new. It just confirms what we know about our past.
#6 - Tue May 19, 2009 4:48 PM EDTTo Whom it may Concern,
First of all, I want to say that I believe any and all fossils are important and interesting finds; and that if I wasn't planning on persuing a career in both the music and movie industry, I'd probably go into paentology and/or archeology myself(that is if I were both younger and in tip top physical shape to do so!). With that said, you say this late find or link rather is of female gender: "I'd like to know how can you tell?" Can you honestly tell, and How? To me, it looks more of a male gender, or both! As it looks to me that it definately has male organs, and perhaps female organs as well; but, to me it looks to be mostly male! Well, not to be perverse, but, it looks to me like it has a bone sticking out, that would be the bone of a penus, (and some may even say a boner; if you know what I mean!). Well, I'm just stating a fact as I see it! Julia E. Torockio
#7 - Tue May 19, 2009 4:49 PM EDTMs. Julia,
Via genetic analysis of the bone/fossilied material, scientists can very quickly discover whether the animal is genetically male or female by the presence or absence of a "Y" chromosome or other genetic sex markers. I am not by any means an authority of monkey or other primate genetics and I am not 100% certain if they are "XX" or "XY" as humans are, or if they have other markers, but I do know that the entire genetic code is found in all tissue, including bone; what makes the tissue different is which parts of the DNA are expressed. That is likely what they did to determine the sex of the fossil.
The bone that you see sticking out is likely a pelvic or torso bone, or perhaps a rudimentary tail; the penis does not actually have any skeletal material in it in primates and is purely soft tissue.
Hip bone structure seen on male and female primates differs due to child bearing needs, that's probably how they arrived at female.
Jorn Hurum must be smoking rope... What a laugh !!!
#8 - Tue May 19, 2009 4:49 PM EDTFound in Germany!!?? How does this impact our understanding of Africa as the seat of human evolution?
#9 - Tue May 19, 2009 4:50 PM EDTIt was on spring break in Germany.
The time period is so far removed from the development of modern humans it has no bearing on the out of Africa theory. The world was very different physically and climatically. Anything even close to modern humans was still 10's of millions of years away.
Whats next? This is so absurd I can not believe it is recieving national attention! Looks like the evolutionists are getting desperate
#10 - Tue May 19, 2009 4:50 PM EDTHey let me ask you something. If God exists why can't he just burn all those evlolutionists who try to make him fake? Would it not be very easy for the all powerful invisible man to just show up and set the issue straight? I guess not. Well, go back to sleep and believe in the invisible man.
Looks like Creationists remain ignorant. I suppose you believe in an Earth only 4000 years old as well? And unicorns and griffons oh my.
Why don't you read the full scientific paper first. Mind you I think this find is a bit over blown, however! Everything from microbiology and DNA analaysis to comparative anatomy and fossil evidence supports evolution.
Future medical and biological discoveries will require an understanding of evolution. For example, how viruses and bacteria adapt and evolve against medications, or where in the genetic code a hormone is reaeased. Maybe when and how a genetic flaw first occured so we can better understand and treat it. Perhaps how to understand where and how to get rid of a pest such as mosquitos. Etc.
So tell me, where do Neanderthals fit into your fantasy world?
wow it's a scientific find that yet again links humans and primates. why do we keep coming back to this if it's not at all possible? are people really that closed-minded?
is it not also possible that a god could have designed a world where life is self-sustainable and evolved and grew? that wouldn't be kooky to me- it would be total genius, wouldn't it? that would make God the greatest scientist who ever existed! science by itself is sterile and nihilistic. religion by itself DOES sound like a bad acid flashback (sorry, it does). why couldn't they work together to help better understand and appreciate God's creation? Get with the times.
I don't dog religious people. I let them believe what they want as long as they leave me alone. Personally though, I'm not very impressed if this is the best an infinitely powerful being can do.
I always had a hard time with the concept of an all powerful being, until I realized that when I eat strawberries I turn invisible. But it never happens when anyone else or a camera is near. You'll just have to take my word that it happens, since there's no proof. Thankfully those kind....tolerant....religious people...understand totally and never ridicule me.
Creationism takes place in the gaps where fossils and direct evidence are missing.
It is in the gaps where God acts and creates what believers believe.
This fossil fills a very large gap with evolutionary evidence that can and should be evaluated.
This fossil is scripture as written by God.
Believers, pay attention, this fossil and all fossils are God speaking to you.
Listen, see, and believe - wisely.
It might be slightly overblown. The odds are that it is not actually human ancestor, but instead is related to the human ancestor of the time.
#11 - Tue May 19, 2009 4:54 PM EDTI have really tried to see the resemblance but it just is not there. That is too bad I was hoping maybe we had finally found Jimmy Hoffa!!!!! I am always amused by the evolutionist's ability to say that believers in God follow a fairy tale when they set there and look at that thing and say yep that was me 40 million years ago in a far away time in a far away place. That to me is a fairy tale of the worst kind.
#12 - Tue May 19, 2009 4:54 PM EDTHowever flawed, at least there is a scientific process to the theory of evolution. Something we can test and challenge. There is absolutely NOTHING scientific about creationism. Poof and we appeared.
Cool huh!
romanm: Take your wristwatch, throw it in the ocean, and in 400 million years it'll be a human being. That's how much sense evolution makes. Explain how an inanimate object can become a living, breathing being. We're waiting......
If you knew anything about wristwatches, you would know that they evolved from pendulum clocks. Pendulum clocks evolved from water clocks, water clocks evolved from sundials, and sundials evolved from sticks.
You are being deliberately obtuse.
Sundials and clocks are made by human hands. They are not living, breathing beings.
Throw them in the ocean, wait 400 million years, and they will come alive - THAT is what it take to believe in evolution. Life where there was no life.
Get your facts straight please. Evolution is the explanation of how things, well, evolved. That is, changes through time. It says nothing about how life started. Abiogenesis is the theory of how life started.
A watch is mechanical and holds none of the components needed to start life as we know it, eg carbon, etc. Meanwhile, we currently have quasi-life on the planet in the forum of viruses and prions. Molecules, proteins that replicate themselves. Please go read up on it. The building blocks of life (amino acides) can be found naturually and unrelated to life.
Now, take apart that watch and find the smallest part. That represents your logical and reasoning skills. You can throw it away now because it's not needed to believe in your magical man in the sky. I'd have more reason to believe in griffons and dragons.
Thank you for explaining that to the "religious-ones" Velox.
Personally, people who are narrow minded can only see humans as five and so feet tall, standing straight up, two legs and arms, eyes, and ears. If they see the human trail to what we are right now, they flip out and think "I was THAT THING?!?" as if they are disgusted to be a monkey.
Hey, it's better being an ignorant monkey only having to worry about eating, excretiating, reproducing, sleeping, and over all surviving instead of being a human being in which being so complex in design causes us to be so arrogant, misunderstanding, and confusing.
And one quick question:
"If good always overcomes evil, then what's death considered?"
Grant Hoes at it again!
#13 - Tue May 19, 2009 4:55 PM EDTNo, it's the creationists who are getting desperate, there seems to be panic mode among creationists at this time.
#14 - Tue May 19, 2009 4:55 PM EDTUmmm, no, I don't really see that happening. I'm not panicking and I'm a "creationists", as you call it. I believe without a shadow of a doubt that I was uniquely and divinely created by God, in His image, just like every other human being that has ever existed. Including you.
Panic mode?
I don't think it's conclusive by any STRETCH looking at that, what that is... IMO it isn't proof of anything. It's the evolutionists that have been so desperate to find a missing link fossil time and again.... Now they're holding this one up. We'll see if it stands the test of time. Even evolutionist paleontologists are calling this one an overhyped joke.
Some of the oldest fossils have been human.
Evolutionists are not desperate to find missing links. The have found a vast number of missing links. And missing links between the missing links.
And no, the oldest fossils have not been human.
So CRTD4ETrnty,
I suppose you also believe the earth is 6000 years old then as well. Look into some peer-reviewed literature on the subject of the age of the earth and evolution. Gosh, even physics shows that the Earth is at least 4.5 billion years old. Do you think humans were around at the same time as the dinosaurs 65 million years ago? If so, where are all the human fossils? Shouldn't they be right beside the dinosaur ones?
Some of the oldest fossils have been human.
Please read books.
Oldest fossils have been humans? Lol? I suppose you think humans and dinosaurs lived side by side. Not to mention everything that came before dinosaurs even.
Do people not read factual books these days?
As for missing links.. Archaeopteryx! Perhaps the best example. Certainly my favorite. Dinosaurs to birds has become one of the best documented transitions recently. The hollow bones, the scales and feathers, the wishbone, a special bone in the wrist to allow for flapping, even the anatomy of the feet! All shared between theropod dinosaurs and avians. Especially maniraptors. Look at the feet of an emu and compare it to the foot of a T. rex. Tell me you can't see simularities there.
If there was a creator that went POOF and there were animals, why was he so unimaginative to give that type of foot and bone structions to only theropods and aves? For that matter why be so narrow minded so that all vertebrates have, well, a spine, 2 eyes, 2 ears, etc. Why not give some animals more eyes. How about mammals? We (yes humans too) all share hair, mammary glands, warm-bloodness, 4 limbs, etc. Why couldn't he/she/it be a little more creative and make some mammals with 6 legs? Or 5 eyes? Ever seen the Spore creature creater game? That's the kind of creature I would expect if animals went POOF and magically appeared.
Anyways. I grow bored. Look! Heres some links. Go do some research.
Mur. Stupid thing cuts out the links. Might have to add www. Meanwhile add a . where the space is before the html, and before the org.
talkorigins org/faqs/comdesc/section1 html
talkorigins org/faqs/faq-transitional html
Silly Evolutionist. Still, none of you will answer the question, "why are there billions and billions of finished species preserved in the fossilic record, and only a few "missing links". And the few missing links that are found are usually overhyped and open to scrutiny EVEN among the evolutionist church members.
Did God come and take away all your evidence, just to spite you? Poor little evolutionist. You are direct descendants of the "World is Flat", "leeches will cure you" scientific method.
Actually, every fossil is transitional. Thanks for demonstrating your ignorance.
Well to be fair XNili0Zer0, some were dead ends ;p
Please read some about Paleontology or Geology, it takes special circumstances for fossils to form, many are destroyed, many more await discovery.
And FYI, it was the christians that said the world was flat, young, and the center of the universe. There was even a modern day Flat Earth Society for a while. Just look at Galileo, and how he was persecuted by the church. Meanwhile, science has given you vaccines, electricity, and oh yeah, your computer.
When dinosaurs, such as Megalosaurus and Igunadon, were first found, christians thought they were the bones of ancients large lizards or giants, because at the time they thought their all-love god would never let one of his creations go exticnt.
You're right, every fossil of a creature which reproduced during its lifetime is transitional.
Creationism takes place in the gaps where fossils and direct evidence are missing.
It is in the gaps where God acts and creates what believers believe.
This fossil fills a very large gap with evolutionary evidence that can and should be evaluated.
This fossil is scripture as written by God.
Believers, pay attention, this fossil and all fossils are God speaking to you.
Listen, see, and believe - wisely.
Well, now. How 'bout that. A "transitional" fossil form. You fundies out there better just take down your shingle and close up shop, because it looks like your whole fairy-story world is coming to a close faster than we all thought.
#15 - Tue May 19, 2009 5:01 PM EDTlol....you know what? I will love seeing your face when you stand before your Jesus Christ your MAKER, and realize that we "fundies" were actually right, and that you, Modern, Enligtnened and oh so foolish evos were totally wrong. You can't even see what's under your own noses.
uhh, no. This is not by ANY stretch the first transitional fossil that has been discovered. So why is this specific fossil going to cause a collapse in belief systems that other transitional fossils have not been able to directly invalidate?
Yeah, it won't collapse their belief system. I don't think there's any fact, or set of facts which could get in the way of good ol' drilled in blind faith.
Hey Anon, Look under your own nose Jesus was not your creator. I thought GOD was. So like most religous nuts you don't even know who your creator is WOW what a shock........
I think the big thing is having a opposing toes, forward facing eyes and nails as opposed to claws. I wish they had a closeup of the teeth and pelivs.
I think they should have used the word Primate in the story though.
#16 - Tue May 19, 2009 5:03 PM EDTEven in the "scientific papers" the scientists do not make the claim this is a human ancestor.
Total BS, they are after publicity and ratings, nothing more !!
#17 - Tue May 19, 2009 5:03 PM EDTSo much for the theory that the religious of this world are the "best guessers!" I mean my goodness, how can these guys even repeat such a detailed guess from "47million" years ago? This poor 9 month old ancestor was "overcome" with a fog of carbon dioxide and slipped into this prehistoric lake where the "unique" conditions preserved "her" until 1983? Are you kidding me?
Surely these guys have done their homework, and read the bible by now? Weigh the two silently "in your closet" gentlemen, and you'll understand why what you've done is blaspheme.
You'll be forgiven, just move on to a different theory and laugh this one off as an accidental public rant.
God Bless you
#18 - Tue May 19, 2009 5:04 PM EDTOnthemove.... There is no one on the planet who could understand the rambling mess you just typed.
Contrary to your belief system, not everyone in existance believes in the teachings of the bible. Therefor they must come to thier own conclusions based on physical, historical findings in our day and age. Granted, I do not think that your beliefs are wrong, but how can you judge these men for theirs? "Judge not, lest ye be judged." Sound familiar?
Does anybody read the bible? Interesting peace of historical document but all that god stuff is just pure garbage and fantasy.
Amen.
onthemove,
Huh?
I didn't know there were still people who don't believe in evolution yet do own computers and type legibly, well almost legibly.
#19 - Tue May 19, 2009 5:04 PM EDTAnd God said, "Let there be evolution. It'll drive those monkeys of mine nuts trying to figure out what I'm doing."
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Totally bogus, although I do see a slight resemblance to Nancy Pelosi.