Nothing like booking a flight and sitting near a chihuahua that just took a massive dump in its pet carrier.
Family of four won't fly for vacations because of the cost and expense of bringing small well-behaved dogs. Airlines 'drive' customers awa
Most animals I see on board are far better behaved than the kids and there are more rules to keep them under control. Ban the kids first.
I'm over 50, and I have never seen an "ill-mannered" pet on a flight! Humans yes, pets no. I worry about putting an animal in cargo, and only tiny pets are allowed under the seat. $300 to put a 7 pound cat under your seat is robbery!
Airlines should charge for pets the same way they charge for children.
Perhaps airlines should require containment for both pets and children.
Better yet, require that both pets and children pass obedience testing prior to flying.
Perhaps some of the behavior tests should be applied to adults also.
patriot4equality-
I am laughing hysterically at your comment. Thank you! You just made my day!
I've flown hundreds of times and had many unruly children on my flights, but NEVER an unruly pet. Also had the delight of sitting next to over-perfumed and unbathed humans on occasion - one who even soiled himself early in the flight. Considering all of the undesirable seat-mates I've encountered over the years, all of whom have every right to fly, I certainly see no reason to prohibit small cats/dogs. The fee should be minimal, especially considering there is NO fee for lap children. $300 is ridiculous!
Amen to this! I've had miserable flights due to unruly kids and some obnoxious adults, but never has a pet been any trouble on a plane.
The main reason why you don't see unruly pets is that, unlike children, airlines require you to keep your pet contained.
If they ban pets, they should ban children, drunks and people who talk constantly. The carelessness and ridiculous prices the airlines have placed on transporting pets is costing them money. Even before the new pets airling started business there are private pilots who are providing the service of moving animals for decent and reasonable fees and with a lot of TLC, as well as people who are forming chains of cars to transport pets. The Airlines need a major reality check, the more they impose these outlandish prices and fees the fewer people will fly and the more money they will lose.
Oh my $#@... what about those of us with severe allergies?!?! They might as well allow smoking in the main cabins! Just inconsiderate and rude... that's what cargo is for...
If you have allergies, bring your inhaler or pay to fly first class. Pets are usually in the main cabin in kennels and better behaved than most children. Perhaps both pets and children should be confined. If both pets and children were required to pass obedience tests prior to flying, I'd bet fewer children and more pets would fly. Might make for better flight experiences overall.
take a benadryl and shut up. I have allergies too and unless you're planning on kissing the dog or cat, I think you'll survive a couple of hours with one in the cabin.
Not true. My mom has ended up in the hospital because of being next to a person who owned a cat, not even the cat itself, and she used her allergy medication. So, it's not as simple as taking a benedryl and shutting up for a couple of hours and not kissing the cat or dog. Some allergies are pretty bad. So unless you are suggesting that because I have allergies, I am not supposed to fly, the puppies and kitties need to go in cargo, not the cabin. First class wouldn't help because we are all breathing the same recycled air.
First class fliers can't bring pets? That's news to me. If the coach cabin is allowed to do it, then first class can as well. Buying a first class ticket doesn't free you from the possibility of sitting near somebody's pet. And someone shouldn't have to take a drug to fly because some other passenger won't put their pet in the cargo hold.
Why does the whole world always have to follow restrictive, inconvenient rules so that the one deathly allergic person doesn't get inconvenienced? If you are THAT allergic that you'll end up in a hospital from sitting next to a pet owner, you should live in a bubble, not expect the rest of the world to give up everything important to them every day of the year just in case you might decide to board a plane some day.
Good grief...ask for a flight with no pets on it or take a train.
The cost of flying is already ridiculous and many people take fewer vacations but spend a longer amount of time. Add in the cost of boarding a pet which can run into many thousands of dollars for a decent kennel if your trip is long or you have more than one pet and you just priced yourself out of a vacation. Many of us think of our pets as family, not cargo and we won't risk their lives in a cargo hold. Having a small pet contained under the seat is reasonable and shouldn't cost more than a very nominal fee.
It's not as if flying is FUN for any of us. We are herded like cattle and searched like criminals through security, then crammed onto a too-small plane, into a too-small seat with people who smell bad, talk too much, have screaming kids who kick the back of your seat, brought everything they own and have to ask you to move every 15 minutes so they can go to the bathroom but won't switch seats cause they want to sit by the window.
Hard to believe you all need to make sure there aren't any pets just so you can be "comfortable".
While not officially an allergy, perfume will trigger a migrane for me. Too often, I have had to sit in misergy next to a person who must have bathed in the stuff -- men do too with 'after shave'.
It's not just pets on board who cause allergy attacks. However, pets are everywhere and people who are allergic need to be prepared. Pets in a carrier should not cause that much of an allergy risk, especially when under the seat and kept in the carrier during the flight AS PER THE RULES.
Pets don't belong on aircraft. please do us all a favor - leave them home or kennel.
Children don't belong on aircraft either. They whine, cry, throw up, crap in their diapers, kick seats, talk constantly and just generally create chaos because parents today don't know the meaning of discipline. Pets are confined in a crate for the duration of the flight and are MUCH better behaved than children.
You willing to drive me and my cat cross country when I relocate? (I am blind, I don't drive.)
How about if I move overseas? You willing to charter a yacht so I can get there with my pet? These things aren't disposable toys you know, at least to some of us.
I concur. And if there's no other way than to put the animal on the plane then it should be in the cargo hold.
airlines charge for everything and it's getting ridiculous!! pets should be allowed to fly (in their carrier) at a reasonable cost. $300.00 IS OUTRAGEOUS! I've personally seen for myself children who are unruly and LOUD and nothing is done about that. let the pets fly with their owners (most of them are somewhat sedated anyway) GO PET OWNERS!
I'd rather fly with a cabin full of pets rather than a flight with kids that act worse than any animal.
Don't Want....too bad people with allergies can't fly in cargo...God, bringing smoking back would be heaven!
Seriously, many wonderful pets have been lost or died in the cargo hold. Airlines need to take more care with their precious cargo...If I had to fly my fur-babies to a destination, I'd have to fly with them in cargo....
How about banning people with allergies? Or banning people with children? Or banning children? Or banning people with body odor or too much added scenting? Or banning those who talk too loudly or too much? Or banning those who are just obnoxious?
Makes about as much sense as banning people with pets or their pets. And risking the lives of pets in cargo -- well, you could ban all of the above to cargo, but who would get the right to fly in a plane. Discrimination...when will it ever end.
Either deal with the fact that 'everyone' should have 'equal' right to fly with their odors, their children, their pets, their allergies, their food, their drink, their quirky behavior, their loudness, their inability to shut up -- you get the point -- or get off the plane yourself.
Your ideal flight environment is not the ideal flight environment for the next person.
Get over it. Deal with it -- this is a public situation. You have the right to get yourself a private method of travel -- drive a car so you can control your own environment.
patriot4...your #7.1 post contradicts the above post.......having a bad day?
you didn't mention bringing back smoking....LOL!
for people with allergies and this goes for kids too.....how about some nice antihistamine. That would keep them all quiet.
I'd still rather fly with pets! and the airlines should take a good look at the way animals are protected on flights...they shouldn't be in cargo.
Yes, pets should be banned from the cabin. I can't get a freakin' bag of peanuts on an airplane because someone 10 rows back may be allergic to them. Yet, someone can bring into the cabin his or her dog to which I am allergic.
While I am not against folks who travel with "pets". I would hope that the "pets" pass a certain few criteria like: Fits in a size profile [exception for seeing eye dogs]; its kept in its container while flying; restricted to dogs and cats [no pigs, skunks, snakes; rats, chimps, etc]; if it craps in its container [lets hope the smell is not too bad].
Having said all that, it does appear to me that there is a great opportunity for a new business here. I have noticed that companies now are marketing to get your luggage from portal to portal. Humm. . . .
Need some criteria for the humans too, both children and adults.
I am 64 years old and have been flying for over 40 years. I have even been jammed in the back of a small ski plane with 4 sled dogs and can honestly say that the dogs were better passengers to fly with than a lot of people I have had to endure. How about first class with two kids running around screaming and fighting each other for a 5 hour flight. I would pay to have a dog sit next to me instead of a human. You should not have to pay more than your ticket price to bring your family pet.
TO SPRING 531736; let the airlines know you are allergic to animals and there wont be any on your flight-dont wait until you get to the gate!
I concur and couldn't have typed it better. All your points are spot on and your advice to SPRING was so clever/smart.
GREAT - Dayateez - now everyone who doesn't like animals will be faking allergies, and someone who has taken a lot of effort and paid a large amount of money so their pet can fly safely by their side (instead of getting lost or dying in cargo) will be inconvenienced! Now, if we could just claim allergies to children....
I would feel much more comfortable if my pet were with me on the flight than in cargo. If there were an emergency, I couldn't imagine having to leave my pet to die. He/she should at least have as much of a fighting chance to survive as I do! That being said, my pets don't travel with me anywhere unless it's a cross country move. They're safer at home than taking the risk of losing them in a strange place or having him/her get ill. If I would have to vacation with them, I'll take my car. That way, at least, they can stretch and see things and get waffled once in a while.
Right, Syerra. Makes me think of Sully's Hudson water landing. Don't know if any pets died on that flight because they were in cargo.
A cargo hold is definately NOT the place for animals or any living creatures. Personally I would not ever put my pets on a plane unless I could purchase cabin seats. Our kittly wouldn't be too bad, but having a German Shepherd Dog could necessitate the purchase of two seats. I'd try to drive them and my family to our destination.
However, that may not apply to a family who is moving cross country. I don't know what options would be available to their pets but I know that abandonment should not be one of them. Pets are family members! So, I had to vote 'yes' for air transport to cover that contingency.
Even though I am severely allergic to dogs and cats, I would sit with a plane full of animals than with kids any day. I do think there should be some restrictions and the fees should be more reasonable. I say if you have to charge $300.00 for something, then do it for bringing a kid on the flight. then perhaps more of them wouldn't take their brats on board. And I am saying this as a person who has kids albeit grown ones.
i wish all airlines would allow small animals to travel as carry on. i understand people have issues with animals so there should be requirement on placement in the plane,ie. front or rear only and notice to flyers as to the seats occupied by alimal carriers prior to boarding
I just had to say something, because I get a bit offended by all the negative comments about kids. My children (7 & 4) have traveled frequently since they were very young. They are always well-behaved & get complimented at the end of the flight. I do NOT drug them, instead I am prepared for the flight. I aways have snacks, videos, and activities for them. If there are poorly-behaved children, blame the poorly-prepared parents. That said, I have flown with far more obnoxious & rude drunken or self-entitled adults than I have ever encountered out-of-control kids in all of my years of flying.
Your kids are not the norm. I fly all the time for business and for pleasure. I have seen a lot of bad behavior--more bad than good from kids. I don't mind kids if they are well-behaved--in fact my last trip overseas I encountered a family with two well-behaved kids that were good the whole 10 hour trip. I complimented that too, because you just don't see it most of the time.
I travel with my chihuahua and most of the time, the attendants tell me that they would not have known that she was onboard, she is so quiet. Unfortunately, there are often parents who bring children on board and the children are not prepared. They have not been taught what to expect and how to behave when in public. The parents are not prepared to deal with the boredum of several hours on the plane and having to sit in a seat all that time. so the children talk, scream, cry, kick seats.
You are to be praised for teaching your children about travel and how to behave. Thank you
Every December I take my cat on vacation to Puerto Rico for two weeks. I remember paying $80.00 each way on American Airlines. the fee is now $100.00. I don't mind paying that much for having my beloved pet with me for two weeks in a safe environment rather than paying more than $200.00 at a pet hotel or to a petsitter. I make sure that my cat is booked in the cabin with me the minute I purchase my ticket. I will admit, my cat behaves way better on the plane when he is laying on my lap than when he is inside his crate. I've experienced negative reactions from other passengers, but I have to say, most passengers praise me for having a well adapted kitty. I believe that it is my right to bring my pet on a plane, and that should not be taken away. I rather deal with someone who has a well behaved pet on board than someone with a annoying kid kicking your seat right behind you and do not take responsibility for it.
taking your pet out of its carrier for ANY reason and keeping it on your lap is against airline regulations. this rule is what means you can carry a pet onboard. it keeps dander from circulating and causing allergic reactions. it also protects your pet. you are violating the airline's policy that you agreed to when you paid the fee. shame on you.
Well-behaved pets absolutely should be allowed on the plane, in the cabin area, with a FAIR fee. The point about "if dogs/cats were meant to fly...they would have wings" is just stupid. Humans don't have wings and we are up there @ 36,000 feet. And as others have remarked, I've flown on way too many flights were children behaved in such a rude fashion & w/o parental control. On the other hand, the dogs and cats I've seen on board, well, I would not have noticed they were even on the plane had I not seen them. Those who are allergic to the dander, come on, the air is already so dry, etc., the few pets, if any, who are flying in the cabin probably don't add significantly to your delicate allergic sensibilities.
I'd rather be in a crashing plane full of cats & dogs than have to sit next to some screaming baby, unruly six year old, or old lady doused with dime store purfume.
Thank goodness 54% of us aren't a-holes.
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Unless I move my cat does not go with me and when I do move she goes with me in the car. She hates that enough, a plane would be a mightmar