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Should fans care about steroid use in baseball?

Manny Ramirez returned from his penalty over the weekend, starting two games at San Diego and pinch-hitting Sunday. Many fans made the drive down from Los Angeles to see him at Petco Park, and he drew far more cheers than jeers.

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Nope -- it's not a big deal because it's just a game
58 votes
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Yes, steroid users are cheaters and it cheapens the game
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Who cares? I hate baseball
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Nope -- it's not a big deal because it's just a game

This is stupid. Why do you care?

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     - 1:27 am EDT on Wed Jul 8, 2009
    Nope -- it's not a big deal because it's just a game

    Baseball is fun to watch. Over the course of a season, you root for your team and follow statistics. Stars are few. Manny is star,

    {"commentId":8091755,"threadId":"621761","contentId":"3006419","authorDomain":"jamesvanspach"}
       - 2:47 am EDT on Wed Jul 8, 2009
      Yes, steroid users are cheaters and it cheapens the game

      moron fans don't care but Americans care.

      {"commentId":8097358,"threadId":"621761","contentId":"3006419","authorDomain":"chiefagc"}
         - 12:45 pm EDT on Wed Jul 8, 2009
        Yes, steroid users are cheaters and it cheapens the game

        Maybe most people have become numb to these things, I have not. Cheaters should be punished far more strongly than they are no, no excuses.

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           - Arcex
           - 3:19 pm EDT on Wed Jul 8, 2009
          Yes, steroid users are cheaters and it cheapens the game

          Celzic is still a moron Manny is still a cheater. And Real Fans DO CARE!

          {"commentId":8102662,"threadId":"621761","contentId":"3006419","authorDomain":"clearmountain"}
             - JAGER
             - 4:08 pm EDT on Wed Jul 8, 2009
            Yes, steroid users are cheaters and it cheapens the game

            why have any rule?

            {"commentId":8105558,"threadId":"621761","contentId":"3006419","authorDomain":"william-martz"}
               - wbmj
               - 5:41 pm EDT on Wed Jul 8, 2009
              Nope -- it's not a big deal because it's just a game

              At the end of WWI, athletes-- who had to ride the buses for long hours and stay alert--used greenies. What's new? Science has caught up.

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                 - 10:50 pm EDT on Tue Aug 4, 2009
                Nope -- it's not a big deal because it's just a game

                The fans don't care, as evidence of the way they pack the stadiums to see their heros. Let all of the players juice up.

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                   - 6:41 am EDT on Wed Aug 5, 2009
                  Yes, steroid users are cheaters and it cheapens the game

                  An athlete who uses Roids is the ultimate cheater. Babe Ruth and Pete Rose "cheated", but drinking and gambling never enhanced their game

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                     - 7:10 am EDT on Wed Aug 5, 2009
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                    {"commentId":8090801,"authorDomain":"ferazma"}

                    That call was personal.... I hear so much about " prima donas" and "they think they are gods " refering to baseball players...and what about the umpires..? They have permission to kill, just like 007.

                    Nobody can argue a call, not even the Managers.. how is that possible.? If they make a mistake, if they are wrong... ( which they are very often ) why MLB don't correct them at least..? I understand that any kind of wrong call can not be re-call after the game ( except the one against George Brett ) but why not during tghe game. There are at least 2 more umpires that could have called those pitches against the Home Umpire. For understandable reasons there is no accepted replay for balls and strikes, but if the Manager comes out He should be able to request the first base umpire ( right handed batter ) opinion, like is very common and continuosly done when a batter half-swings a pitch. After all, is easier for the base umpire to see the exact position of a pitch when is not swang.

                    Well, they like to play God... have you noticed the way they eject a player..? Why is that acceptable..? It is a very arrogant and humiliating move and extremely ridiculous the way they do that foward step and point highly to the sky in God knows what direction to eject a player for letting them know they were wrong. I have heard managers when approaching umpires to argue a call, by starting to say something like " Are you sure that was a strike, Sir, Almighty God of the Olimpus.." in order not to be also ejected. The Commisioner and his team should pay more attention to this matter, and make them understand that they have to respect the players, who at the very end, are the employers. Without the players there is no game, no business, no job.

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                      Reply#1 - Wed Jul 8, 2009 12:48 AM EDT
                      {"commentId":8097439,"authorDomain":"chiefagc"}

                      axenic

                      "base umpire to see the exact position of a pitch when is not swang."

                      Oh hell yeah- we should definitely value your opinion- it's obvious dat u dun lernd

                      all dat stuf in skol.

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                        #1.1 - Wed Jul 8, 2009 12:49 PM EDT
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                        {"commentId":8091778,"authorDomain":"jamesvanspach"}

                        The worst thing about the game in any sport are the officials. Modern technology is better than the umpires. Pitch tracking is science and it isn't as wrong as the humans, who get paid. They use it in tennis and it has made the game better. The ball travels faster in tennis. The umpires job is thankless but often a wrong call determines an at bat, and sometimes an at bat determines the outcome of the game. They allow replays for home runs now. They aren't going to replace the home plate umpire but replays show bad calls on the base paths too. There is nothing worse than watching an ump squeeze the plate or call a strike, when pitch tracking shows it wasn't even close. Manny was called out tonite and the pitch was 4 inches off the plate. It didn't determine the game but the bases were loaded and it cost them a run. Manny showed the ump up and got tossed but the ump got shown up on the replay. Imagine the ninth inning of a playoff game...unacceptable!

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                          Reply#2 - Wed Jul 8, 2009 2:53 AM EDT
                          {"commentId":8092069,"authorDomain":"jumbobucsfan65"}

                          Its about time someone from the media decided to get off their high horse. Its not that doing steroids should just be accepted (although we know they are a ever present part of sports today). It's that the media, the fans, and the general managers created this monster. Watch the sports highlights. How often do you see a sacrifice bunt, routine hits or other parts of the game that make it such a cerebral game. You see the towering homeruns, the further they fly the better. GM's reward power hitters with enormous contracts, the fans vote them into the All-Star game and pack the stadiums when the big name power hitters visit their home teams ballpark. Human nature is for these stars to find a way to get to the top and stay there. They are going to push the limits and often go beyond them. Its about the money and the fame and as long as we enable it they will continue. I get really upset at the indignant tone so many "baseball purists" and media types take whenever a player is popped. Can't they see how much of a role they have played and continue to play in this "steroids era"? Get over it and accept that it is here to stay and the fans and media created the monster we now have to live with.

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                            Reply#3 - Wed Jul 8, 2009 4:10 AM EDT
                            {"commentId":8102720,"authorDomain":"clearmountain"}

                            real fans of the game appreciate the work it takes. You guys who love the Juicers are not real fans...you are just another part of the scuz side of any sport.

                            {"commentId":8102720,"threadId":"621748","contentId":"3006419","authorDomain":"clearmountain"}
                              #3.1 - Wed Jul 8, 2009 4:10 PM EDT
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                              {"commentId":8101479,"authorDomain":"lukepapini"}

                              if they want to juice up, i say, let them. the better they play, the more interesting the sport is.

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                                Reply#4 - Wed Jul 8, 2009 3:28 PM EDT
                                {"commentId":8102743,"authorDomain":"clearmountain"}

                                you bout to hit the needle are ya????

                                {"commentId":8102743,"threadId":"621748","contentId":"3006419","authorDomain":"clearmountain"}
                                  #4.1 - Wed Jul 8, 2009 4:11 PM EDT
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                                  {"commentId":8123495,"authorDomain":"AOLWnDenDen"}

                                  Who cares, there are so many other things happening in this country who cares.

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                                    Reply#5 - Thu Jul 9, 2009 3:19 PM EDT
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